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Det ser nærmest ud som om at MGM remasteren er tættere på 35mm kopien. :shock:


No shit, Sherlock.


Hvad formål tjener denne kommentar?

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Indlæg: man aug 07, 2017 21:49 
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Jf. de caps, Fritte linkede til længere oppe, så 35mm'eren mere gullig ud end den 35mm du viser her, Steen? Det er sgu forvirrende.

Det svinger fra scene til scene. Alle billederne er fra den samme 35mm.

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Indlæg: tirs aug 08, 2017 9:15 
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http://videowatchdog.blogspot.dk/2017/0 ... -ugly.html
Himlen er blå i billede nr. 7, 11 og 13. Og i andre billeder er den ikke blå.

MGM 2009
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Indlæg: tirs aug 08, 2017 9:37 
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Det ser nærmest ud som om at MGM remasteren er tættere på 35mm kopien. :shock:


No shit, Sherlock.


Hvad formål tjener denne kommentar?


At det ville være mærkeligt, hvis MGM's remaster IKKE var tættere på 35mm kopien.


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Indlæg: tirs aug 08, 2017 9:51 
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http://videowatchdog.blogspot.dk/2017/08/first-look-kinos-good-bad-and-ugly.html
Himlen er blå i billede nr. 7, 11 og 13. Og i andre billeder er den ikke blå.

Nu skal det selvfølgelig siges, at en himmel sagtens kan være nærmest hvid - det afhænger også af eksponeringen. Man kan selv prøve at tage et overeksponeret billede af en blå himmel.

Men jeg synes stadig at den er blevet en tand for farvefattig.

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Indlæg: ons aug 09, 2017 11:54 
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Actually, a team which I am a part of have scanned 3 different 1967 IB prints, 2 Italian prints, a 1990's lpp print and a 1967 German print. We have also viewed another original 1967 IB tech (Tarintino's) projected in l.a. (And took copious notes). We have plenty of reference material and it all was offered to Kino. They told us to "take our complaints elsewhere". None of the prints are as green/yellow as the 2014 master, and even when compared with the increased contrast of prints, the 2014 master is needlessly crushed. The look of the 2009 Italian mondo disc is based off of the first restoration done in 2000 supervised by the original cinematographer, Tonino Delli Coli. (There were new prints made at that time). It leans a bit towards magenta in some places and suffers from rolling shutter, but it's still the closest to the prints in color (although it is far less contrasted than a print, being from negative.) For some reason the 2014 restoration decided to go with the memory of an assistant camera man and ignored the prints supervised by Delli Coli.

Lots of info and research here:

http://www.theeditroomfloor.blogspot.ca

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In subsequent posts, we offered an original 1967 continuity script (accurate to the exact frame) as reference, advised them to use the old laserdisc as reference if need be, and even offered our scans of 1967 prints. Time and again we were rebuffed by "Mister Lime" who works for Kino, and we were told they knew what they were doing, they had their own references etc etc.

It was in responding to the above post months later to update on the missing footage that Mr. Lime stated "Our 4K of the 161 minute cut matches the old MGM DVD of the theatrical cut exactly."

At this point I pointed out AGAIN that the 98 dvd was the wrong cut, and MisterLime said "I don't have time for this bullshit". I'm sure at this point he realized they were too far into production to change it. Other than the small bits/changes listed above, it IS entirely possible to recreate the 1967 theatrical cut IF you use the right reference. Kino decided they knew better despite all of the evidence presented and now we are getting the 98 hodge-podge cut in HD, instead of a cut that Leone approved and supervised in 1967. Recutting the Tuco gang scene is just perpetuating the same mistake made in 1998, and was completely avoidable. But hey, Kino will tell you they know better, despite the overwhelming evidence and research that says different.

Det er fanme noget rod. :(

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Indlæg: ons aug 09, 2017 12:01 
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Puuuuuha Kino :shock: :nono:

Med de fejl den nu har, så foretrækker jeg stadig MGMs originale Blu-ray-udgave.


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Indlæg: ons aug 09, 2017 12:43 
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Ja, man kan jo vente i en evighed - eller give op på et tidspunkt og lade sig nøjes.

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Indlæg: fre aug 11, 2017 10:30 
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Blu-ray.coms anmeldelse er oppe.

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Ser nu ikke så slem ud som frygtet.

Faktisk synes jeg den ser ret godt ud (ud fra screen shots) sammenlignet med den version jeg har.

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Note: the MGM-produced special features have been mangled for this Blu-ray, displayed with low resolution and stuttery frame rates, which makes them resemble particularly problematic YouTube videos.


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Indlæg: fre aug 11, 2017 12:25 
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pallec skrev:
Ser nu ikke så slem ud som frygtet.

Faktisk synes jeg den ser ret godt ud (ud fra screen shots) sammenlignet med den version jeg har.

Nej, det kunne bestemt have været værre - det ser bare meget blegfiset ud. Jeg tror jeg holder fast i min 2009-udgave og håber på et mirakel før eller siden :)

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