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Indlæg: ons nov 24, 2010 22:31 
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Where's the grain? Bad news here - this has strong DNR and the image has lost almost all of its grain! I can't speak to the colors which look a bit boosted and funky at times but the visuals have been 'res'ed down' significantly and it has lost detail and the important texture that makes it look like actual 'film'!. Skin tones often move from fleshy-white/red (in both DVD releases) to ghastly orange. This is an over-manipulated transfer and it has not taken advantage of the new format's beneficial attributes. There is no depth at all. We are not saying it looks worse than the DVDs - but to those who can identify the waxiness of DNR - it will be hard to watch. Actually the Criterion SD-DVD shows more grain. This is a real shame for serious film fans who like to project. On a more positive note - it is in the 1.66:1 aspect ratio but contrast is also weak - which essentially controls detail (note the eye - the wrinkles under the eye in the Criterion are more prominent than on the Blu-ray). I'm disappointed. Thumbs down to the image.


BD.com skriver og giver 5 stjerner for billedet:
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This is an exceptionally strong high-definition transfer. Freshly restored, Peeping Tom looks the best it ever has. Fine object detail is outstanding, clarity very pleasing, and contrast levels consistent throughout the entire film. What impresses the most, however, is the color-scheme; the variety of reds, greens, blues, yellows, browns, and blacks look sensational (there is an extensive demo included on the disc which compares the old look of the film with the new restoration). Stability is also greatly improved. For example, the background flicker and macroblocking that are present on the old Criterion SDVD release of Peeping Tom are completely gone. Many of the close-ups also look exceptionally healthy - there are no color pulsations or pixelation issues, and the high-transfer reveals a type of depth that very much rivals that of the restored The Red Shoes. Lastly, Peeping Tom has also been meticulously cleaned up. As a result, there are no large cuts, marks, stains, or debris to report in this review. To sum it all up, this is indeed an exceptional presentation of an exceptional film.


Jeg savner også korn, billedet til venstre er fra DVD, højre er Blu-Ray.

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Indlæg: fre nov 26, 2010 8:10 
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Indlæg: fre nov 26, 2010 9:41 
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Det lyder desværre ikke lovende:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview ... ingtom.htm
"Optimum 'Special Edition' Region 'B' Blu-ray - (November 2010) - Where's the grain? Bad news here - this has strong DNR and the image has lost almost all of its grain! I can't speak to the colors which look a bit boosted and funky at times but the visuals have been 'res'ed down' significantly and it has lost detail and the important texture that makes it look like actual 'film'!. Skin tones often move from fleshy-white/red (in both DVD releases) to ghastly orange. This is an over-manipulated transfer and it has not taken advantage of the new format's beneficial attributes. There is no depth at all. We are not saying it looks worse than the DVDs - but to those who can identify the waxiness of DNR - it will be hard to watch. Actually the Criterion SD-DVD shows more grain. This is a real shame for serious film fans who like to project. On a more positive note - it is in the 1.66:1 aspect ratio but contrast is also weak - which essentially controls detail (note the eye - the wrinkles under the eye in the Criterion are more prominent than on the Blu-ray). I'm disappointed. Thumbs down to the image."

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Indlæg: fre nov 26, 2010 9:49 
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Der er en tråd på Blu-ray.com bl.a. med kommentarer fra et par brugere som har haft BDen i deres afspiller.

At dømme udfra Bæverens screenshots er der blevet brugt DNR, men nu vælger jeg aldrig at sætte min lid 100% til "døde billeder", når det gælder film og har derfor - naturligvis - bestilt et eksemplar af BDen for at danne mit eget indtryk. ;)


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Indlæg: fre nov 26, 2010 10:25 
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Det lyder godt Hr.Steiner :) , skriver du lidt når filmen er set.

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Indlæg: fre nov 26, 2010 10:32 
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Jeg har BD'en liggende, og skal have set den i aften.

Umiddelbart mener jeg at der burde gemme sig flere detaljer, på det gamle negativ.
Men, det kan jo være et medtaget negativ, som man ser resultatet af her.
Det gamle Eastman Kodak format var mere skrøbeligt, end en del andre formater.

Der er et blødere billede, end jeg tror er muligt, på stillbillederne.
Hvis Criterion udgiver den også, har jeg en forventning om et skarpere billede.

Det med stregerne under øjnene, vil jeg ikke tillægge DNR skylden for.
Der er nemlig brugt EE og contrast boosting, på begge DVD'er.
Jeg har iøvrigt begge DVD'er også. ;)

Screenshots, fra mine to DVD'er, kan man finde her: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27531&start=15


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Indlæg: man jan 24, 2011 0:36 
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Og hvordan så den sammenligning så ud??


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Indlæg: man jan 24, 2011 0:40 
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Og hvordan så den sammenligning så ud??

Jeg skrev en anmeldelse, i tråden om HD-film jeg har set i dag.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=26317&start=780 (håber at sideskiftet er korrekt)

Billedkvaliteten veksler, fra ægte BD-kvalitet, til digitalis DVD-opskalerings EE DNR filter mareridt.
Mange scener er gode, men når det er slemt, er det slemt - desværre.
Håber at Criterion kommer med en udgave også.

Sammenlignet med den bedste DVD foretrækker jeg nu klart BD'en.
Jeg havde bare håbet på bedre. :(


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