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Er jeg den eneste der egentlig synes at de fungerer rigtig godt hver for sig? Jeg er ikke helt overbevist om at det er en god idé at klippe dem sammen.


Jeg er ret enig. Da filmene lige var kommet ud, tænkte jeg, at det kunne være godt at se dem som en hel film, men jeg synes på den anden side også, at de to film er så forskellige i stilen, at de står perfekt hver for sig. Jeg er fint tilfreds med de to udgivelser jeg har af Kill Bill Vol. 1 og 2, så dette er ikke noget jeg går ud og køber.


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Jeg tror godt vi kan regne med at den bliver helt klippet om sådan at nogle ting bliver rykket rundt...ellers ville det stadig føles som to film.
Det er vidst også det Tarantino har sagt før... :D

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Jeg tror godt vi kan regne med at den bliver helt klippet om sådan at nogle ting bliver rykket rundt...ellers ville det stadig føles som to film.
Det er vidst også det Tarantino har sagt før... :D


Det tror jeg ikke der er nogen tvivl om.

Jeg mener bare stadigvæk, at stilen og det visuelle udtryk er så forskelligt i de to film, at det må blive svært. Men det må Tarantino jo se om han kan finde ud af :)


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Når alt kommer til alt, så kan jeg faktisk bedre kan lide Kill Bill - Volume 2. 8)

Begge film får stadig 6/6, men jeg synes at anden del er bedre udført med tonsvis af uforglemmelige scener (The Lonely Grave of Paula Schultz ;)) og ikke mindst, dialog i bedste Tarantino-stil. Musikken fra første film er dog guld! :thumb:


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Når alt kommer til alt, så kan jeg faktisk bedre kan lide Kill Bill - Volume 2. 8)

Begge film får stadig 6/6, men jeg synes at anden del er bedre udført med tonsvis af uforglemmelige scener (The Lonely Grave of Paula Schultz ;)) og ikke mindst, dialog i bedste Tarantino-stil. Musikken fra første film er dog guld! :thumb:


Jeg har altid svært ved at skille de to ad. De er begge helt fantastiske film, og jeg er vild med kampscenerne og den visuelle stil i Vol. 1, men dialogen og historien er på sit højeste i Vol. 2. Men forhåbentlig kan denne nye udgave ændre det så man ikke længere behøver at skelne :clap:

Og ja, musikken fra begge film er fuldstændig fantastisk. Men Tarantino har det nu også med at vælge nogle utroligt gode soundtracks. Med Jackie Brown som eneste undtagelse har jeg alle soundtracks indtil videre, og jeg hører dem tit. Little Green Bag og Coconut fra Reservoir Dogs er begge utroligt gode!

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Jeg er mere til Westerns end Hong Kong Kung Fu, så toeren er helt klart også min favorit. :thumb:

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Når alt kommer til alt, så kan jeg faktisk bedre kan lide Kill Bill - Volume 2. 8)

Begge film får stadig 6/6, men jeg synes at anden del er bedre udført med tonsvis af uforglemmelige scener (The Lonely Grave of Paula Schultz ;)) og ikke mindst, dialog i bedste Tarantino-stil. Musikken fra første film er dog guld! :thumb:


Jeg har altid svært ved at skille de to ad. De er begge helt fantastiske film, og jeg er vild med kampscenerne og den visuelle stil i Vol. 1, men dialogen og historien er på sit højeste i Vol. 2. Men forhåbentlig kan denne nye udgave ændre det så man ikke længere behøver at skelne :clap:

Og ja, musikken fra begge film er fuldstændig fantastisk. Men Tarantino har det nu også med at vælge nogle utroligt gode soundtracks. Med Jackie Brown som eneste undtagelse har jeg alle soundtracks indtil videre, og jeg hører dem tit. Little Green Bag og Coconut fra Reservoir Dogs er begge utroligt gode!


Så er det med at får soundtracket til Jackie Brown hjem! Det holder sgu!

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Her er hvad vi kan forvente i det nye cut:

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--The opening scene between The Bride and Vernita Green has two alternate angles shown when The Bride asks for a towel instead of keeping the overhead shot.
-In the anime sequence, one of Boss Matsumoto's men has his face smashed into a wall twice, rather then just once.
-In the anime sequence, when O-Ren Ishii kills Matsumoto and tells him to look at her face, she asks him to look at more facial features (nose, chin. etc.) to be recognized, and then before pulling the knife out, there is a close up shot of her moving the knife up his stomach and then finally pulling it out. There are a couple of close up shots of Matsumoto's face as he's dying as well that were eliminated from the US print and then a pan up shot of Matsumoto's blood covered and disemboweled body.
-The "House of Blue Leaves" fight is not only in full color, but features about 9 new shots missing from the US print which include:
--A close up of the first female Crazy 88 (Julie Manase) gargling blood after being pinned to a wooden pillar by a sword. This shot, while cut from the US version of Vol 1, showed up in the end credits of the US cut of Vol 2.
--A shot of The Bride stabbing two Crazy 88s at once using her own sword as well as another Crazy 88's sword.
--A ten foot high super backflip that The Bride executes before landing back down to pop out one of the Crazy 88's eyes. This shot appeared in the TV spot teaser, but disappeared soon after.
--After The Bride pops out the one Crazy 88's eye, as another one charges at her screaming, she simply throws the eye into the attackers mouth, causing him to start to choke. The partially armless Sofie Fatale gives a follow up disgusted reaction.
--A shot of another female Crazy 88 attacking only to get slashed in the throat and spraying blood everywhere.
--The first appearance of the "Kid Crazy 88" (the one who gets spanked with the sword). In this shot, we now find out why he's missing a mask later on. As he's about to attack The Bride, she swipes his mask off. We see he's just a kid, and he gives the universal "don't hurt me" sign. The Bride has a look of shock on her face in realizing he's just a kid, so she grabs him, throws him across, knocking 3-4 Crazy 88 into a blood filled mini pool. This shot of the 3-4 falling, while cut from the US version of Vol 1, also showed up in the end credits of the US cut of Vol 2. Overall, this "mini scene" helps establish The Bride's look of surprise even more when she sees the young Crazy 88 the last time... and his follow up "don't hurt me" look even funnier.
--A shot of a Crazy 88 getting slashed across the chest and spraying blood all over a wall.
--When The Bride jumps onto the shoulders of one of the Crazy 88, after she slashes another one across the face, the Crazy 88 she's standing on tries to attack her from below. She parries the attack and cuts his hands off. The shot then cuts to the forward sommersault.
--Since the fight is already in color, the close up "eye shot" of The Bride blinking is cut. Instead, the first part of the close up before she blinks is shown, however, at the point when she normally blinks, there is a replacement medium shot of her standing slightly fatigued and holding her sword out.
-Finally, after the "House of Blue Leaves" fight, is the most infamous of the missing scenes and that is Sofie Fatale's extended "trunk interrogation" scene. After The Bride warns Sofie about cutting off something, instead of cutting back to Sofie in the hospital, The Bride is shown grabbing Sofie's arm and screams "GIVE ME YOUR OTHER ARM!". Sofie starts to panic, but then The Bride chops off her other arm, causing blood to splash onto the screen and Sofie begins screaming again.
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Etteren var en OK film, toeren var noget møg. Irriterende kedsommelig dialog.

Eneste plus er at Tarantino måske har hjulpet til med at frempromovere spaghetti western genren med disse film, og så soundtracket der indholder op til flere 'huggede' temaer fra klassiske spaghetti westerns.


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Etteren var en OK film, toeren var noget møg. Irriterende kedsommelig dialog.

Eneste plus er at Tarantino måske har hjulpet til med at frempromovere spaghetti western genren med disse film, og så soundtracket der indholder op til flere 'huggede' temaer fra klassiske spaghetti westerns.


:roll: - 2éren var ren klasse. End of story...

Glæder mig som en sindsyg til denne udgivelse.

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@ Mills - Nice liste du har fundet dér! :thumb: En Kill Bill double movie marathon i et spritnyt cut lyder alt for perfekt! :thumb:

Jeg kender (desværre) også alt for mange mennesker, som ikke bryder sig om Volume 2. Det er IMO en genial film som tager sig god tid til at afslutte hævnsagaen om ******* *****. ;)


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Her er hvad vi kan forvente i det nye cut:

spoiler!
[hide]
--The opening scene between The Bride and Vernita Green has two alternate angles shown when The Bride asks for a towel instead of keeping the overhead shot.
-In the anime sequence, one of Boss Matsumoto's men has his face smashed into a wall twice, rather then just once.
-In the anime sequence, when O-Ren Ishii kills Matsumoto and tells him to look at her face, she asks him to look at more facial features (nose, chin. etc.) to be recognized, and then before pulling the knife out, there is a close up shot of her moving the knife up his stomach and then finally pulling it out. There are a couple of close up shots of Matsumoto's face as he's dying as well that were eliminated from the US print and then a pan up shot of Matsumoto's blood covered and disemboweled body.
-The "House of Blue Leaves" fight is not only in full color, but features about 9 new shots missing from the US print which include:
--A close up of the first female Crazy 88 (Julie Manase) gargling blood after being pinned to a wooden pillar by a sword. This shot, while cut from the US version of Vol 1, showed up in the end credits of the US cut of Vol 2.
--A shot of The Bride stabbing two Crazy 88s at once using her own sword as well as another Crazy 88's sword.
--A ten foot high super backflip that The Bride executes before landing back down to pop out one of the Crazy 88's eyes. This shot appeared in the TV spot teaser, but disappeared soon after.
--After The Bride pops out the one Crazy 88's eye, as another one charges at her screaming, she simply throws the eye into the attackers mouth, causing him to start to choke. The partially armless Sofie Fatale gives a follow up disgusted reaction.
--A shot of another female Crazy 88 attacking only to get slashed in the throat and spraying blood everywhere.
--The first appearance of the "Kid Crazy 88" (the one who gets spanked with the sword). In this shot, we now find out why he's missing a mask later on. As he's about to attack The Bride, she swipes his mask off. We see he's just a kid, and he gives the universal "don't hurt me" sign. The Bride has a look of shock on her face in realizing he's just a kid, so she grabs him, throws him across, knocking 3-4 Crazy 88 into a blood filled mini pool. This shot of the 3-4 falling, while cut from the US version of Vol 1, also showed up in the end credits of the US cut of Vol 2. Overall, this "mini scene" helps establish The Bride's look of surprise even more when she sees the young Crazy 88 the last time... and his follow up "don't hurt me" look even funnier.
--A shot of a Crazy 88 getting slashed across the chest and spraying blood all over a wall.
--When The Bride jumps onto the shoulders of one of the Crazy 88, after she slashes another one across the face, the Crazy 88 she's standing on tries to attack her from below. She parries the attack and cuts his hands off. The shot then cuts to the forward sommersault.
--Since the fight is already in color, the close up "eye shot" of The Bride blinking is cut. Instead, the first part of the close up before she blinks is shown, however, at the point when she normally blinks, there is a replacement medium shot of her standing slightly fatigued and holding her sword out.
-Finally, after the "House of Blue Leaves" fight, is the most infamous of the missing scenes and that is Sofie Fatale's extended "trunk interrogation" scene. After The Bride warns Sofie about cutting off something, instead of cutting back to Sofie in the hospital, The Bride is shown grabbing Sofie's arm and screams "GIVE ME YOUR OTHER ARM!". Sofie starts to panic, but then The Bride chops off her other arm, causing blood to splash onto the screen and Sofie begins screaming again.
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Men det er jo bare det japanske cut. Det har vi allerede.


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Ja men det er nok det vi får, plus recut og dvs. nye scener.

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:roll: - 2éren var ren klasse. End of story...


One man's garbage etc.

Toeren havde megen dialog for dialogens skyld, og så finder jeg det ikke interessant mere....


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:roll: - 2éren var ren klasse. End of story...


One man's garbage etc.

Toeren havde megen dialog for dialogens skyld, og så finder jeg det ikke interessant mere....


Hmm, jeg syntes netop den var fed pågrund af dialogen. Dialogen er jo netop en af de ting der gør Quentin Tarantino's film så fede.

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